. >> mr. pratt, you have just propag propagated an absolutely. in 2011, there were 39 gun murders in new england and wales. >> they're published just after our interview. >> there were 39 gun murders in new england and wales. >> you're whistling past the graveyard. >> no, you're lying, so that americans who may be tempt to do buy in to the terrible game -- you know what, more guns, less gun crime, less gun murders. it is a fallacy, it is based on lies. you just propagated another lie, 39 gun murders in 2011, in england and wales, you have added -- it is outrageous, what you do is outrage. >> it will be a little too late to buy your insurance policy. >> let's take a break and talk more about this. try and stick, if you can, to facts and not lies, that would be very helpful for the tenor of this debate. what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm go